Susie taught Lorenzo to pot but they don't work together. Her designs are more basic while his are more like Diné weaving designs. He'll lightly carve, add a darker slip and use sgraffito techniques to change the texture of his surfaces. She prefers a smooth surface with perhaps a small biyo' below the opening. Her colorings are generally part of her firing process. Lorenzo fires similarly and both coat their pieces with warm pinon pitch before they cool.